Path: ns-mx!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!ah499 From: ah499@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: DuoDisk Message-ID: <1991Oct15.204000.20426@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Date: 15 Oct 91 20:40:00 GMT Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA) Lines: 95 Nntp-Posting-Host: cwns1.ins.cwru.edu Here's a file concerning the Duodisk problems and how to fix them that I found in a Fidonet post a while back: Subj: Duodisk Modifications There are TWO modifications that should be made to Duodisk drives. The first one was recommended by Apple perhaps 5-6 years ago, to solve occasional problems with trashing diskettes by Duodisks. The solution is to remove 2 capacitors. The 2nd modification is only required for Duodisks to be used on Apple IIGS's (though the modified Duodisk will still work fine on older Apple II's). It requires removing a resistor. The problem is that the Duodisk draws just a little too much current. This problem is especially apparent when several drives are daisy-chained from the GS Smartport. Problems are MOST likely to occur when the Duodisk is daisy-chained from a Unidisk 3.5 Drive. DUODISK MODIFICATION - REMOVAL OF CAPACITORS OK, here's the first modification for the Duodisk drive. This mod should be done on ALL Duodisks, no matter whether they're used on //e's, IIGS's, etc. The problem was that diskettes would sometimes be damaged when doing an Open-Apple-CTL-Reset, or when using disks with certain kinds of copy protection. The mod was in an Apple dealer service bulletin several years ago. Here's an excerpt from the bulletin, describing the problem: "Data on disk is damaged when using "Open-Apple-CTL-Reset" for rebooting, or when using software with certain copyright protection schemes. Analog board PN is 676-[]101 or 676-[]102." The Analog board is the one inside Drive 1 in the Duodisk. You may have to unplug the cable near the back right of the board to see the board's model number. Anyway, if you have the -101 or -102 board, just break off or cut out Capacitors C29 and C30 (at board locations A1 and B1, respectively). I've done this on all 3 of my Duodisk drives, so I can vouch for the safety of the procedure. DUODISK MODIFICATION - RESISTOR REMOVAL Here's the second modification for your Duodisk drive. This is the exact message as posted on Compuserve in 11/86 by an Apple Computer employee: ********************************************************************** Duodisk Mod 13-Nov-86 1150 Accesses: 12 This file describes how to modify your duodisk for safe use on the GS. Obviously, it is preferable that you have it done by the dealer, but if you want to do it yourself here's the info... Questions/problems to 76703,3030, PM Using the DuoDisk with the Apple IIGS The DuoDisk can not be used as the last daisy chained device on the built-in IWM disk port of the Apple IIGS. For instance, a UniDisk 3.5 will be rendered inoperable when the DuoDisk is installed in the above manner - although using the DuoDisk by itself is not a problem. A qualified technician will have to modify the DuoDisk analog board if the DuoDisk is to be used as the last device on the chain. Please use the following procedure to determine how to modify the analog board. IDENTIFYING WHICH ANALOG BOARD YOU HAVE Remove the top cover as documented in Technical Procedures. Turn the drive so that the I/O connector is facing toward you. The identifying number will be at the bottom left of the analog board. The number might read 676-[]101, 676-[]102 or 676-[]107. PERFORMING THE MODIFICATION If the I.D.# for the analog board is 676-[]101 or 676-[]102, use a pair of nippers and cut out resistor R8 (located at position A2). If the I.D.# for the analog board is 676-[]107, use a pair of nippers and cut out resistor R39 (located at position A1). *************************************************** (from a post on Fidonet by Jim Nichol) ___________________ Hope that's a help to someone. John Daniels ah499@cleveland.freenet.edu -- Path: ns-mx!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news!noc.near.net!mars.caps.maine.edu!bates!lablues!larry From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: duodisk fix Message-ID: Date: 18 Oct 91 05:32:46 GMT Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn, Maine (207) 777-3465 Lines: 32 ->From: aq054@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Cota) ->Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 ->Subject: Re: Apple IIe need help ->Date: 12 Oct 91 23:09:35 GMT -> ->A few years ago there some kind of defect in some duodisks that caused ->the drive to destroy data on disks To keep your DuoDisk from killing certain copy protected software: Your DuoDisk is layed out as a grid. Find location A,1 and B,1. The letter portion is on the side and the nymeric is on the top. You will find Capacitors C29 and C30 respectively; they are HARD to find; mine were under other components. CUT THEM OFF!!! To remove the resistor that keeps your DuoDisk from running on a SmartPort, you first identify your analog board. For board #'s 676-*101 & 676-*102 remove R8 For board # 676-*107 remove R39 The asterix (*) above is a shinny spot on the board in the shape of a square. That's all there is to it; it works!!!! InterNet: larry@lablues.UUCP FidoNet: 1:132/301 or 1:132/300 Larry Schneider / 7: " Wovon Man nicht sprechen kann, | Larry Schneider / daruber muss man Schweigen." | P. O. Box 60 / | Exeter, ME / Ludwig Wittgenstein | 04435-0060 / Tratatus Ligico - Philosophicus | 207=379-3181 (___________________________________________| Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!nstn.ns.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!vax2.concordia.ca!spector From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector) Subject: Re: DuoDisk 5.25 bug (ctrl-oa-reset) Message-ID: <18JUN199405275559@vax2.concordia.ca> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: vax2.concordia.ca Organization: Concordia University References: <15JUN199402153411@vax2.concordia.ca> <2trp64$atp@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:27:00 GMT Lines: 125 In article (Chris Deschu) writes... > [snip] >Hmm, I'll have to check mine out. Authorized Apple dealers are/were supposed to do the modification fix free, though it seems simple enough for virtually anyone to perform (if you can use a screwdriver, you should be able to do the fix yourself). From what I read, there's no soldering involved -- you just cut or break off two small capacitors. I'll post the detailed information for doing the fix below (Thanks to Dave V. for sending it to my mailbox! :-) >Interesting. I have a DuoDisk on my ROM 1, and it has worked >flawlessly from the day I plugged it in. I haven't checked the >board number yet, though. Another one of my friends also uses >a duodisk on another ROM 1, and again, no problems. Anyone use >one on a ROM 3 yet? I wouldn't expect any difference. I've never tried hooking up my DuoDisk drives to either my ROM 01(s) or ROM 3 (bearly see a need for even my platinum 5.25), but it *will* function without the modification. The problem has to do with certain configurations, like having the DuoDisk last on the GS smartport chain. (This involves a separate fix from the one above -- simular though) ================DUODISK 5.25 FIXES (begin)============================ This evening, I received with great appreciation, the Duodisk mod I had been asking for. They were courtesy of John Daniels (ah499@cleveland.freenet.edu). He asked me to post it here so that others could benefit as well. Here goes! +---------------------------------------------------------+ Subj: Duodisk Modifications There are TWO modifications that should be made to Duodisk drives. The first one was recommended by Apple perhaps 5-6 years ago, to solve occasional problems with trashing diskettes by Duodisks. The solution is to remove 2 capacitors. The 2nd modification is only required for Duodisks to be used on Apple IIGS's (though the modified Duodisk will still work fine on older Apple II's). It requires removing a resistor. The problem is that the Duodisk draws just a little too much current. This problem is especially apparent when several drives are daisy-chained from the GS Smartport. Problems are MOST likely to occur when the Duodisk is daisy-chained from a Unidisk 3.5 Drive. DUODISK MODIFICATION - REMOVAL OF CAPACITORS OK, here's the first modification for the Duodisk drive. This mod should be done on ALL Duodisks, no matter whether they're used on //e's, IIGS's, etc. The problem was that diskettes would sometimes be damaged when doing an Open-Apple-CTL-Reset, or when using disks with certain kinds of copy protection. The mod was in an Apple dealer service bulletin several years ago. Here's an excerpt from the bulletin, describing the problem: "Data on disk is damaged when using "Open-Apple-CTL-Reset" for rebooting, or when using software with certain copyright protection schemes. Analog board PN is 676-[]101 or 676-[]102." The Analog board is the one inside Drive 1 in the Duodisk. You may have to unplug the cable near the back right of the board to see the board's model number. Anyway, if you have the -101 or -102 board, just break off or cut out Capacitors C29 and C30 (at board locations A1 and B1, respectively). I've done this on all 3 of my Duodisk drives, so I can vouch for the safety of the procedure. DUODISK MODIFICATION - RESISTOR REMOVAL Here's the second modification for your Duodisk drive. This is the exact message as posted on Compuserve in 11/86 by an Apple Computer employee: ********************************************************************** Duodisk Mod 13-Nov-86 1150 Accesses: 12 This file describes how to modify your duodisk for safe use on the GS. Obviously, it is preferable that you have it done by the dealer, but if you want to do it yourself here's the info... Questions/problems to 76703,3030, PM Using the DuoDisk with the Apple IIGS The DuoDisk can not be used as the last daisy chained device on the built-in IWM disk port of the Apple IIGS. For instance, a UniDisk 3.5 will be rendered inoperable when the DuoDisk is installed in the above manner - although using the DuoDisk by itself is not a problem. A qualified technician will have to modify the DuoDisk analog board if the DuoDisk is to be used as the last device on the chain. Please use the following procedure to determine how to modify the analog board. IDENTIFYING WHICH ANALOG BOARD YOU HAVE Remove the top cover as documented in Technical Procedures. Turn the drive so that thidentifying number will be at the bottom left of the analog board. The number might read 676-[]101, 676-[]102 or 676-[]107. PERFORMING THE MODIFICATION If the I.D.# for the analog board is 676-[]101 or 676-[]102, use a pair of nippers and cut out resistor R8 (located at position A2). If the I.D.# for the analog board is 676-[]107, use a pair of nippers and cut out resistor R39 (located at position A1). *************************************************** ============================== end ============================= BTW -- Can someone verify if capacitors C29 and C30 are small brown, oval-shaped, directly in line with each other (going downards) and each next to the 4-pin black plus connectors on the analog board? Just want to be sure I clip the right ones... >___________________________________________________________________________ > |___ Chris Deschu cdeschu@nyx.cs.du.edu >_|_|con (610)791-3596 4804 Bowood Street, Center Valley, PA. 18034-9628 >:-)|echnologies is IT in the Lehigh Valley for Apple ][ Consulting & Repair Mitchell Spector sb_spec@pavo.concordia.ca / spector@vax2.concordia.ca