Path: news.weeg.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!olivea!charnel!sifon!homer.cs.mcgill.ca!archmage From: archmage@cs.mcgill.ca (Patrick Marcoux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Educational games that teach about computers Message-ID: Date: 26 Jan 93 20:18:56 GMT Sender: news@cs.mcgill.ca (Netnews Administrator) Reply-To: archmage@cs.mcgill.ca Organization: Forgive the Moose campaign international Lines: 64 I posted an article a while ago looking for educational games for apple IIgs that actually taught about computers. I received a few very good suggestions, and I want to thank those who wrote in. Some of you expressed interest in seeing the list of what I got. Some of these software are going to be hard to find, as they are either public domain, out of print, or of unknown source. Again I appeal to you, if you know where to get 'em, do tell. Title Publisher Category 6502 SIMULATOR public domain CPU simulator Rocky's Boots Learning Company Circuit logic * Robot Odyssey Learning Company Circuit logic * High Wire Logic Sunburst Boolean logic Algernon Sunburst "Programming" Willy Byte ? ? * The Friendly Computer MECC Kbd & peripheral Apple presents Apple Apple Intro disk Tour of the GS Apple Intro disk Know your Apple Muse ? * ? Unknown * Out of print (P.S. I'm already using Friendly Computers, as well as a lot of the MECC series, & the intro disks.) Unfortunately, it would seem that not many software manufacturers thought about this kind of educational product, or that kids should learn anything about the types of tools they can expect to use later on in life. Seems that a lot of us are using 'business' software for this sort of school activities. But then, teaching is about making due with what little we've got, isn't it? (That's what our school board keeps telling us ;-) Here's a few of those: Title Category Print Shop Graphic Design & Layout HyperStudio Graphical User Interfaces Appleworks Spreadsheet/Database PEPSI BBS (used in local mode) Magic Slate II Text editor with dictionary + School Speller I haven't tried the HyperStudio environment. Is there a user friendly interface that might help kids produce simple but nifty looking programs? (Like, for instance, the NeXT Step environment?) And where can I find PEPSI or some such BBS? That sounds like a cool idea. Thanks all, Patrick (archmage@cs.mcgill.ca) -- =============================================================================== Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that every program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work.