Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!news.idt.net!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!151.164.30.38!newsgate.swbell.net!swbell!not-for-mail From: Rubywand Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Copy][+ param. for Ultima V? Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 11:05:15 -0600 Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services, Richardson, TX Lines: 114 Message-ID: <34D5FCCB.536A@swbell.net> References: <19980122.883F040.75F8@aqu.bekkoame.or.jp> <34C975B3.649F@swbell.net> <19980127.8709D28.6DAF@aqu.bekkoame.or.jp> Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-207-193-10-207.hstntx.swbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: (null) 886438751 9196 (None) 207.193.10.207 X-Complaints-To: usenet@nnrp1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-SBXA (Win95; I) Xref: news1.icaen comp.sys.apple2:129736 Hidehiko Ogata writes ... > .... > Interestingly, the above param. seems to > make a copy that can't create/transfer characters, but can activate > music/journey onward. I wonder if it's a "feature" of this release or > not :). > .... Probably, it is not a "feature". Maybe, the parms only work right for the original release. > > > U5MBONGS includes routines which produce a deprotected copy. > > All the better, might try it someday. Sadly for now, I've yet to > establish a way to transfer files to my unenhanced 128K //e (I should > know better, I know, I'm trying! :) > NULL modem works well for transferring stuff to/from Apple II and PC or Mac. For a NULL modem connection, Modem MGR, ProTerm, and COMM.SYSTEM are some wares that should work as telecom programs on the IIe side; Hyperterm and Telemate work fine on the PC side. The process and cables are described in the csa2 FAQs file F002T1TCOM on Ground at ftp://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2 http://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2 .. The copier (named U5BACKER) in U5MBONGS.SHK makes a deprotected Ultima V boot disk copy useable on a II+ or IIe that will transfer characters from Ultima IV. Fortunately, there is another approach which you might try. In Issue #62 of COMPUTIST, Peter Pebler describes a way to patch DOS in order to copy the Ultima V boot disk. His process is ... 1. Boot a DOS 3.3 diskette 2. At the usual Applesoft prompt, do a CALL-151 to get to the monitor 3. Enter ... B98B:A5 2D C9 10 90 04 E9 11 85 2D 18 60 4. Enter E003G to get back to the Applesoft prompt 5. RUN COPYA and copy the Ultima V boot disk to another diskette I tried the above and it did not work. However, it seemed to be close to working. When trying to make deprotected copies with COPYA, a 'near miss' sometimes indicates that the problem is in the INIT which COPYA does or that a DOS patch has shut off some error checking and a copy error went undetected. It seemed like a good idea to try a variation. The process below did work: 1. Boot a DOS 3.3 diskette-- this can be for-real DOS 3.3 or ESDOS ][ or Prontodos. I booted an ESDOS ][ diskette. INIT a diskette to serve as the copy disk-- I used COPY II+ to just FORMAT a diskette for DOS 3.3. Either way, you have a copy disk which you know made it through a format without bombing. 2. LOAD COPYA 3. Change Line 250 (or whatever Line in your version does the INIT command) to 250 FT= 1 4. At the usual Applesoft prompt, do a CALL-151 to get to the monitor 5. Enter ... B98B:A5 2D C9 10 90 04 E9 11 85 2D 18 60 6. Do a RESET to get back to the Applesoft prompt 7. Do a RUN and copy the Ultima V boot disk to the formatted copy disk The resulting boot disk copy was tested and worked okay for transferring a character from Ultima IV and starting play on our II+. The copy is deprotected and easy to back up. (The other original diskettes in the Ultima V set are not protected.) By the way, the directions for doing a character transfer are not entirely clear. At one point you are told to insert the Ultima IV Britannia Disk. If your U4 charcter is saved on a copy of the U4 Britannia Disk, that is the disk to insert. > Incidentally, was there any different release of Ultima IV? Mine has > a setting for two Mockingboards, but it doesn't seem to utilize the > second MB at all. (I acquired the second lately, which should explain > my renewed interest in Ultima :) > As far as I know, there is one official release of Ultima IV. We have just one MockingBoard; so, I've never tried U4 with two boards. One board can be in the standard Slot 4 position. If your 2nd MB isn't being recognized, you might try moving it to a different Slot. My guess is that the board should not be in Slot 3 or Slot 6. As I recall, Ultima IV's process for setting up access to a 2nd MB is kind of cumbersome. You may need to experiment with U4's menu's and options. Also, U4 may expect that one board or the other will support speech. Rubywand