A recap on IIGS to ethernet please Previous | Next    From:  UHAUSMANNMay-26 9:36 am    To:  davoesq  #2057.3, in reply to 2057.13 of 9     >Could anyone give a summary (for this poor little bunny that came  > late) on what's needed and how it's done please? Would you like to connect the wintels too? If not, simply connect the Mac and the GSs by LocalTalk. If you want to connect the Winboxes too, then things might become a bit expensive: 1) you need an ethernet card for the Mac 2a) you need an ethernet-localtalk router to give the GSs an ethernet option (since there are no cards available right now - if ever . . .). I know GDT PowerNexus or Asante 2b) alternatively, get - from the Apple Software side - Localtalk bridge and run it on the Mac equipped with an ethernet card: The Mac then, will route all localtalk devices to the ethernet side. 3) you need a Ethertalk client for the win boxes. Given they're running Win 3.11 there would PC Maclan for free (www.miramar.com). The Win 95/98 versions are commercial. Using either the hardware or the software solution for routing localtalk and the there connected GSs they are happily networked (using Atalk filesharing). An alternative might be to run some Novell fileserver software on one of the PCs. Installing the AppleTalk protocol on the Novell server (if memory not fails this option exists since Novell Fileserver 2.x and higher). Starting from Novell NDS 4.x there is even a very nice Mac client for Novell. But in any case you will have to enable the ATalk protocol on the server because otherwise the GSs won't see anything. ------------------- NEXT............... -------------------   From:  davoesq3:07 am    To:  (UHAUSMANN) unread  #2057.9, in reply to 2057.79 of 9   G'day again! >> Hmmm, this sound interesting! Does that mean that the GS will "see" >> the Win95 box and be able to copy to/from the Win95 box directly?? >> Even if I have to copy stuff to/from the Mac from the GS, and then >> to/from the Win95 box, that'd be a big plus! > yes. It should work just like a hardware router (generally > LocalTalkbridge > works in the same way like Laserbridge - it's simply a > control panel making > transparent the LT devices to the >ethernet side). Thanks, I just dl'd the LocalTalk bridge from Apple and will be trying it with my ROM3 GS connected to the Mac LC520 via Appletalk, then the 520 connected via ethernet to my WinAMD Win95B box (which is also connected to my 486-100 Win95b connected to my Cyrix 233 NT 4.0 box, whew! The WinAMD Win95b box runs the CopsTalk 2.51 Atalk software which allows me to access the LC520. I'm looking forward to this being able to connect the GS up to the network! Be a great thing to demo at my SIG at the Apple Users Society of Melbourne (AUSOM) some time if I can get it to work :-) > Then, I forgot, there is always the Linux or NetBSD > option: If your LC has a > full 68040 (otherwise you can find one easily and for > cheap), you can install > NetBSD 1.4 and actiavte NetAtalk, which would make > that Mac a wonderful server > and internet gateway a > t the same time. Or, if you need the Mac as a Mac, > install Linux on a PC and do > pretty much the same as you would do under NetBSD > on the Mac. I'd like to actually keep the MAc as is. However I just read last night in one of the aussie computer mags (APC) about the Linux NetAtalk that you mentioned above and since I'm going to experiment sometime (real soon now ;-) ) with Linux 5.2 this might be an interesting experiment! All I've got to try and do is find time (not easy with a 4 y.o. son, 3week old boy. and the trouble 'n' strife (wife) :-( > Good luck and let us know, how you're >going on, I sure will try if I can get it working (hell I'll probably do it even if I can't). Thanks Ulrich heaps!! I owe you a beer (or 3 or 10 ;-) ). Regards, Davo esq -------------------------- and, or, else ;-) Thanks to Mike Westerfield -------------------------- The quick & dirty way to set up a network with a Mac and GS: 1. The Hardware. You need two localtalk network connectors and a cable to connect them. The connectors have a short wire hanging out that plugs into any serial port on your GS or Mac; you need one for each. They come in two flavors called LocalTalk and PhoneNet. These work the same. The difference is that LocalTalk connectors use a shielded coaxial cable, so they may work a little better in an electrically noisy environment. PhoneNet uses standard phone connectors, so it's cheap. You can get either one from just about any Macintosh supplier. 2. The Mac. Turn on file sharing. Under System 8.5 you use the File Sharing Control Panel to do this. Enable sharing for the drives of folders that you want to be able to access from the Apple IIGS. From System 8.5, you do this from the Sharing... subment of the GetInfo menu item in the Finder's File menu. In System 7.5, I think there is a menu item right in the file menu, but I don't remember the exact name. 3. The GS. Turn on AppleTalk using the AppleTalk control panel. You'll see your Mac listed by name; once you select it, you will see the hard drives that are shared listed. You can sign on to any or all of them. There are several steps involved in setting up the software, but the menus I mentioned bring up dialogs that step you through it fairly well. Once everything is set up, the Mac drives appear on your GS desktop as if they were local disks, except the icon is a bit different. You can read files, write files, delete files... anything you want to do that you gave yourself permission to do when you set up sharing on the Macintosh. -------------- -end of file-