Subject: Re: AppleIIc to pc transfer From: Rubywand Date: Thu, Nov 19, 1998 6Ç27 Message-id: <36541CA8.3377EA0@swbell.net> Pete Cauchy writes ... > > I own an apple IIc, have a db25 to dim5 cable and a term program. > What program/how can I upload the programs to the pc? I would like to > make copies of all of my programs(approx 200) available so they don't > self-destruct. ... On a IIc, you could use DSK2FILE to create a .dsk file of each diskette side (so long as the diskette is not copy-protected). To do NULL modem transfers you need a NULL modem connector or a cable which swaps signals around the way a NULL modem connector does. (If your DIN5-to-DB25 cable is for an Imagewriter I printer, it will, supposedly, work like a NULL modem connector.) The connection with your PC looks like .... ____________ ____________ | PC or Mac | | Apple II | | running a | | running a | | telecom | <--modem--> [NULL modem] <--modem--> | telecom | | program | cable [connector ] cable | program | |____________| |____________| If your PC or Mac has a spare COM port, the connection can remain in place without disrupting normal net connections through the other COM port. [Modem to net] | modem cable COM1 ____ |______ ____________ | PC or Mac | | Apple II | | running a | COM2 | running a | | telecom | <--modem--> [NULL modem] <--modem--> | telecom | | program | cable [connector ] cable | program | |____________| |____________| Below is a snip from the newsgroup FAQs which adds some details ... >> From: Rubywand .... On the Apple II side, you can choose from several good telecom programs. Since you would like to be able to do z-modem transfers, good choices include Intrec's ProTerm-A2 3.1 (Enhanced IIe -- IIgs), MGR Software's Modem MGR (II+ -- IIgs), AnsiTerm (IIgs), and Spectrum (IIgs). You can also choose from many freeware and shareware programs. Generally, these support x-modem but do not support z-modem. If you're running under a current version of Windows, HyperTerm works very nicely on the PC side. (For sending Text files from PC to Apple under HT, be sure to uncheck "send line enders" in the ASCII settings.) If there is a choice of terminal emulations, it seems best to stick with something simple, such as "TTY". A good NULL modemming program for running under DOS is Telemate, commonly available as shareware. Many other telecom programs are available and work fine under current Windows, old Windows, and DOS. Similarly, there is a good selection of Mac telecom wares. To do transfers, you just connect the modem cable from each machine to the NULL modem connector. If your PC or Mac has a spare COM port, the connection can remain in place without disrupting normal net connections through the other COM port. For a GS, the modem cable should be a "high speed" type which allows hardware handshaking and this option should be set in the GS telecom software. The same is true for other Apple II's running at 9600 baud or above. Set the same format (8-N-1) and baud rate on each telecom program. (The format will, almost always, already be set to 8 bits-No parity-1 Stop bit.) A good first-try speed setting is 9600 baud. If errors indicate this is too fast for either machine, you can move down to 2400 baud. An accelerated GS running Spectrum can connect with modern PC's running HyperTerm at 56k baud or better. .... Place each program in terminal mode-- often, this is the default mode. Or, the particular telecom program may have menu items or buttons you select for specific kinds of transfers. Next, you will usually select the function (send or receive) on each machine and the protocol. The protocol should be the same on both machines. Z-modem is the best choice for most single or multiple file transfers. Text files can be an exception (see the next question). A plain ASCII transfer will circumvent most problems but is slower; and, you may need to send and receive/capture files one-by-one instead of in batches. Finally, you will select the file or files to send or "Open". Usually, it is best to start Receive on the target machine before starting Send on the source machine. If you find that one telecom program or the other does not give you enough time to start Send-- i.e. it keeps "timing out"-- change the program's "Time Out", "Inactivity Delay", etc. setting. Note: Some telecom programs may expect an end-of-send signal which the sending program does not supply. Pressing CTRL-X or RETURN on the Apple II or ESC on the PC often seems to work okay for terminating the Send. ---------------------------- From: Jeff Blakeney You don't need to manually tell Spectrum or other modern telecom programs to receive a file each time you do a Z-modem transfer. Just make sure that you have Auto Receives turned ON. In Spectrum the setting is in the Settings/File Transfer/Receive Options... dialog. << > Also could use any suggestions on what emulator would > work best on a pentium 60 running win95. AppleWin seems to work well. Rubywand