Subject: Re: USB input devices? --- etc.
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Michael Crane writes ...
>
> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 07:52:31 -0500, nospamhattonr@aug.com (Rick)
> wrote:
> 
> >Michael Crane <cranem@athenet.net> wrote:
> >> Folks, I wouldn't believe a word this fellow types - he's lied
> >> repeatedly here before.  For instance, he promised that he would leave
> >> the Apple II community on Dec. 25, 1998.  Obviously he has reneged on
> >> this promise.
> >
> >I wonder if his enginner friend is basing the assumptions on the fact
> >that there are already ADB/USB converters being produced for the Mac.
> 
> Hmmm, ADB/USB converters.  How useful can this be, given that USB has
> a data rate of 12Mbps, and ADB has to be considerably less than that
> (though I will admit ignorance of the actual data rate of an ADB
> port.)  Perhaps useful enough for mice, keyboards, joysticks and the
> like, but for scanners, floppy drives, tape drives, etc?  Unlikely, or
> these devices would have been produced for ADB before the advent of
> USB.

     There are lots of good reasons for having a way to use USB devices
on a computer with an ADB bus input.
 
 
> Of course, I suppose it's possible that these converters are actually
> intended to make ADB devices work on a USB port and not the other way
> around, but that is only supposition and I have no data to verify it.
> At least that would make some sort of sense, but it doesn't much help
> out for the Apple II since it still lacks (and is likely to continue
> lacking) USB ports.

     Which explains why the discussion has focused upon a USB interface
for the Apple II.


> >As for truth and veracity.. why dont you leave the character
> >assasinations to another newsgroup?
> 
> Character assassinations?  I suppose, but I still believe that the
> truth should be made known and that promises should be kept, no matter
> where one is.
>

     Things change. Minds change. When keeping a promise would do only
harm, the correct course is to not do it.

 
> Let it be made known that I do *not* hate Mr. Turley.  I do not know
> Mr. Turly beyond his visible works.  As such, I can only make my
> decisions based on the data I have.  That data says that Mr. Turley
> has lied to the folks on this newsgroup;

     ??? Well, okay; every once in a while he does refer to one of the
vogon types as a "programmer". 


> and furthermore, it also
> suggests (though not necessarily conclusively) that he is a pirate and
> a sector editor who modifies others works and claims them as his own.

     This sounds like stuff one might pick up on a bash Dr. Tom site.
The "evidence" presented on one such site was carefully examined a
couple years ago and determined to be contrived. (Actually, the
temptation was to scrap the whole inquiry when I came upon a 'linguistic
analysis' which "proved" Dr. Tom had sector edited and pirated some
piece of software-- this by a French speaker who can barely put together
an understandable English paragraph. The "analysis", of course, was
bogus.)


     Regarding Dr. Tom's "visible works", you seem to have missed a few.
Here is a partial listing ...

o- Originated the project to obtain copyright owner permission to
reclassify software so that it can be freely downloaded and distributed
by users-- obtained reclassification for the Medley desktop publishing
package.

o- Maintains a resource-packed Apple II site

o- Produced GS-WorldView (on-line 'zine) and A2-2000 (disk 'zine).

o- Originated the project to move the AOL Apple II archives to Ground
(and did most of the work in moving many MB's of files).

o- Did news and history articles in II Alive; did an interview with Woz
which was published in II Alive.

o- Has collected, organized, and uploaded information on many Apple II
products.

o- Reestablished the popular Asimov-GS archive after it had been hacked
into and trashed by "anti-piracy" fanatics.

o- Developed and works in projects to mirror other Apple II archives.

o- Maintains large resource folders for Apple II users on Ground.

 ... 


> I do not know the veracity of these allegations and as such do not
> claim them to be fact.

     Unfortunately, the lies of a few trouble makers cause problems on
every major forum.



Rubywand