Subject: Re: AppleWorks 5 on Ground? Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <37FE4B16.850A5020@swbell.net> From: Rubywand Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 References: <199910081650.SAA60960@mail1.uni-muenster.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:50:46 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.193.15.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.net X-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 939412206 207.193.15.11 (Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:50:06 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:50:06 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Penman writes ... > > Sigh. Here we go again. This is the reason a lot of people has decided > not to use Ground anymore, since it's turning into a pirate site. Offering Appleworks on Ground seems like a fine idea. Regarding v5, only the v5.1 update (about 327k in .shk) appears to be there. Where is the full Appleworks 5 install on Ground? > AppleWorks 5 is NOT public domain, and while we all know that it's not > available anymore, At least your information about Appleworks commercial availability is more accurate then the nonsense you've been spouting about MECC wares. > many people such as Bev, the Lost Classics folk and > others are working, trying to get Apple Corporation to release it as > public domain. Naturally, we all wish them well in this effort. In the mean time, it is worth noting that Apple has been pretty good about permitting distribution of essential Apple II software and firmware which the company owns. For example, ProDOS is not licensed; but, Apple does not harass vendors and developers distributing their wares on ProDOS disks. Nor does Apple act to close sites like Emulation Net which distribute ROM copies needed for emulators like Bernie. It does not seem likely that we shall obtain public domain status for "Appleworks" any time soon. The name is too valuable to Apple for current and future word processor products. If we want to have classic Appleworks in the public domain, then the first step should be to edit each version we wish to see in PD-- mainly, v2.x, v3, and v5.1-- to replace "Appleworks" with some new name. For instance, we could call it "AplIIworks" or "ClassicWrks"-- i.e. some name which permits a direct, same-length substitution. > Having illegal copies up on Ground makes that reclassification work that > much harder. Hopefully Steve will see this thread and remove it. .... LOL! Starting this thread is _your_ mistake. Don't expect Steve to remove it. Rubywand