Subject: Copyright Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: bobryan9@my-deja.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:29:53 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 67 Message-ID: <8jdqnp$vko$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.79.221.92 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jun 28 21:29:53 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x73.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.79.221.92 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDbobryan9 Copyright law was probably originally drafted and passed as a way for a person or company to protect something they own so they could sell it and nobody could just copy it, claim it theirs, and then sell it themselves. This would cut into the authors/companies profits. It would be just plain unfair. If you did the work, you should profit from it. If somebody copies the software and sells it while you are selling it, it is stealing. If a company or author no longer sells his/her/its software, what is copyright protecting? It isn't protecting anything. It is preventing people from using the product (if it isn't available used or commercially). If somebody were taking all the old titles and claiming that they were their work and selling them with this claim, it would be stealing. I am sure there are some people/companies that are stubborn and won't take the time or effort, however small it may be, to reclassify thier software. There is also the "I wrote it, it's mine, you can't copy it" view too. But if nobody is saying they don't want it distributed, what is copyright protecting? I've found some extremely rare software (drivers for 1979 interfaces, etc) and I've been able to find people who worked on the project. They are HAPPY to supply the software. They are extremely pleased to know that someone has use for the work they did long ago. Most of the time they will send disks by snail-mail and refuse offers for me to pay shipping! Of the 5 or so rare programs I've obtained this way, copyright was never mentioned FIRST by the person I was in contact with. A few times it would take a while for someone to email me back, and I'd worry that the person was concerned with copyright. I would email them and ask them if this was the case. In every case when I asked if they were ignoring me due to copyright, I received a reply to the effect of "What? This software was released 18 or so years ago. The company now designs PC chips and software. They don't even know what an Apple II is or that the company made this stuff back then. Besides, I worked on the project, the software is available, you have a use for it, and it is doing nobody any good sitting here on this dusty disk. Give me your address" If you want to complain about copyright, find a company whose software is illegaly on the net 2)contact them and let them know the situation 3) have them take action to remove the software. Just because something is illegal does not mean the law makes sense, even if it did a few years ago. Is it justice for a judge to uphold an unjust law? Yes, he's doing his job. No, he us upholding injustice. There are copies of commercially available and still supported titles on the net. Why don't you go take care of those? The fact is that this is not a current piracy battle. It is people who were damaged financially/emotionally when certain people pirated their stuff way back when. It is a battle against one person. Charles Turley. Do you chase down somebody who turns without a signal, and harrass them? Do you send them letters and give them hell? Bob Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.