Subject: Re: followup (was: wanted: answers)-- RGB vs composite color Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!nnrp2.sbc.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3959EC89.CCBB6F12@swbell.net> From: Rubywand Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 References: <39584938.D92CE8E5@swbell.net> <20000627184938.01857.00000123@ng-da1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:16:09 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.62.142.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.net X-Trace: nnrp2.sbc.net 962194423 216.62.142.9 (Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:13:43 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:13:43 CDT Organization: SBC Internet Services Obsbedia2 writes ... > >> If the monitor is a composite color type, you can use an RCA type >> cable to go from the IIgs composite video output to the video input >> of the monitor. > > I remember trying such a monitor at the Goodwill with an 8-bit Apple II. > I wasn't too impressed, I'm sorry to say. 80-column was a bit blurry, > as was DHR. I passed on it. .... Come to think of it, I do not remember trying a composite color monitor on our IIgs. Guess it would be a good idea. Okay; I disconnected the Amdek Color-1 from the II+, lugged it over to the IIgs, plugged it in, and tried out the GS System Finder plus Elite (a hires game), Air Heart (double-hires), Pirates!/gs (320-mode super-hires), and Appleworks 5 (80-column Text). First-- no question about it-- the Finder (a 640-mode display) is much sharper, better looking, and easier to use via the regular RGB monitor. On the composite monitor you get 'banding' of the desktop background color and lots of color in the Text. Still, Text is readable (except when selected/highlighted). One nice thing about 80-column Text displays-- as in Awks 5-- is that, on the GS, you keep your basic color settings although the composite display is forced to monochrome. That is, you can get black Text on a white background. This turns out to be a good deal more readable than the white-on-black display you get as the usual default on other Apple II's. (Actually, the GS black-on-white 80-col Text display is less 'contrasty' and easier to read than the same display via other Apple II's-- not sure why.) The RGB display is better; but, the composite display is useable, though, as you say, a tad "blurry". Pirates!/gs is sharper and the colors are richer on the RGB monitor. However, the game looks okay on the composite display and the 320-mode Text is easily readable. Both Elite (hires) and Air Heart (DHR) are better looking on the composite monitor. The RGB display delivers 'hard' coloring for dots which gives a contrasty look with what amounts to smearing because some dots are over-emphasized. On the composite monitor the dots get the brightness values intended in the original design of the graphics. The composite monitor did much better than I'd expected (and, really, the Amdek Color-1 is not supposed offer the best dot resolution available from color composite monitors). Overall, though, the GS RGB monitor is easily the way to go-- just the vastly better performance in 640-mode super-res is enough to decide the matter. Rubywand