Subject: Re: A2 Trade/Swap???? site discovered ... another Vogon success story
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Cturley2 writes ...
> 
> One of our GS WorldView Internet research staff members
> sent me an email a few days ago with this URL to visit
> and review.
> 
> http://www.bouncepass.com/appleiilist.html
> 
> I was rather amazed and somewhat shocked at the content it offered, and
> the comments it presented, having an email reference noted as being on
> delphi.com - so...I copied the contents to share with the readers of
> this CSA2 - Newsgroup.  The entire URL page contents are included below
> for your feedback, comments and thoughts on it all.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Apple II Swap and Shop
> Thousands of games were made for the Apple II series. Maybe well over
> 10,000. But they have disappeared from public consumption. Because
> floppy disks weren't the most durable of mediums, many have been
> damaged. Many more were tossed out by anxious parents after children
> left the nest. Still more were just erased as Apple II users moved onto
> PCs and Macs and the disks were reformatted for those platforms.
> 
 ....

> So what is an Apple II user to do? My opinion: revive pirating. Let's
> copy all the software out there before it disappears forever. The Apple
> II is still a very useful machine. We shouldn't be forced to give ours
> up just because we're sick of the software we have. There was enough
> software made to keep users happy for many more years ahead. Finding it
> is the hard part.
> 

 ....

> So, now that youÕve read it - as
> it was presented from the URL noted above, what are your thoughts,
> comments and personal feelings on such a web site and page?
> 
 ....

     Considering that I could not even reach the page for several hours after
this thread started, my guess is that rocketusa@delphi.com is getting plenty
of takers. Once ACN Florida and Tarnover closed down (thanks to harassment of
their ISPs by vogon types), something like "Swap & Shop" was a near
certainty.

     Unlike 'Florida and Tarnover, S&S does not exclude current commercial
offerings from its listings (unless the presence of GraphicWriter III "a fine
layout program" is an accident). And, since the site advocates "piracy" and
will trade for stuff it does not have, there is no particular reason to
believe that Spectrum2, GSoft BASIC, and other current commercial wares will
not eventually be listed.


     Wonder why the vogies are so quiet? Like, supposedly, they finally have
a for-real pirate site, and, yet, not a peep. 

     For years, those who attack sites like Asimov and Tarnover have been
warned, repeatedly, of the consequences likely to follow removal of well
behaved 'safety valve' sites. They would not listen and persisted in their
bogus charges of "software piracy". Now, unless S&S is some kind of hoax, it
looks like the vogon screwups have managed to produce 'the real thing'. 




Rubywand